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DELL VV0NF with chip BQ30423 TI V0.08 not calibrating properly FCC

Fogonazo
(@ventas)
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Real capacity is around 3400 mah, but after calibrating FCC is lower than before. I have some of this batteries with low cycles and health all of them is around 30% when it shoud be higher.

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Topic starter Posted : 10/06/2024 11:42 am
torture
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Attach the calibration log.

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Posted : 10/06/2024 11:45 am
Fogonazo
(@ventas)
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@torture

 

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Topic starter Posted : 10/06/2024 11:47 am
Fogonazo
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@torture when discharging it drops from 88% SOC to 8% suddenly

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Topic starter Posted : 10/06/2024 11:52 am
torture
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Posted by: @ventas

when discharging it drops from 88% SOC to 8% suddenly

Yes this happens for 2 reasons.

1. The cells have a very high internal resistance. If you check these 2 screenshots you will see that the cells voltage gets dropped from 4.2v to 3.5v just for about (3 minutes 39 seconds) with a load of 1500ma. This is not normal they must be replaced. 

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2. Chip is programmed from factory to consider the cells depleted at around 3.5 - 3.4v since the voltage drop further is considered unstable. But from my practice this is not entirely true and is a very common issue with DELL batteries as the internal resistance increases. A good working solution that i have done many times and never had any customer complaints is to lower the EMF/EDV values so cells would be considered depleted at around 3.1-3.0v

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Posted : 10/06/2024 1:47 pm
Fogonazo
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@torture

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I will try lowering EMF value from 3750 to what number? 3400?

and EDV values ?

 

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Topic starter Posted : 10/06/2024 7:41 pm
makomboreroo
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@ventas how do we lower EMF/EDV values i need also to learn

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Posted : 10/06/2024 8:59 pm
DjiBattWorkshop
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 TI has special tool to calculate EDV Constants known like GPC Gauging Calculator. 

  https://www.ti.com/tool/GPCCEDV  

https://www.ti.com/lit/pdf/SLUUB45B  

 

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Posted : 10/06/2024 9:11 pm
Fogonazo
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I have lowered EMF to 3400, and set FCC to real capacity read by previous calibration (3400mah) and performed a calibration cycle. Now after calibration FCC is 3000 mah

 

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Topic starter Posted : 11/06/2024 2:35 pm
Fogonazo
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@torture in case of chip BQ30423 TI V0.08 there is only EMF value or are there also EDV values to modify? 

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Topic starter Posted : 29/04/2025 5:53 pm
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